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Understanding Bodyweight and Glycogen Depletion

Quick take — If you diet or are planning to start a diet, understanding the relationship between bodyweight and glycogen (Glycogen is carbohydrates as stored by your body) depletion is paramount.

Your body stores energy as fat and glycogen. Whereas fat stores can vary dramatically from person to person, your body can only store so much energy as glycogen.

Glycogen requires water to be stored. In the initial stages of diet/caloric restriction and exercise, your body depletes these glycogen stores, reducing your bodyweight from the elimination of both the weight of the stored glycogen and the weight of the water. Note that nowhere in this process is the much-desired loss of fat!

Thus, even as it will feel good to shed 5 - 10 lbs. simply from a few days of exercise mixed with a caloric-restricted diet, the weight loss will be primarily from a reduction in glycogen stores and water. In other words, what you’ll have lost in the beginning is really little more than water weight.

Take heart in understanding the relationship between glycogen stores and bodyweight as an improved understanding will help you set realistic expectations on whatever diet or exercise regiment you are undertaking in 2009.

A deeper dive:

I first learned about the relationship between stored carbohydrates and water retention from Gary Taubes’ Good Calories, Bad Calories. The gist is that for every gram of stored carbohydrate (Stored as glycogen) in your body, there is a set amount of additional water storage that is required.

Taubes had pinned the carb/water storage ratio at two grams of water per one gram of carbohydrate. A random Googled source pins it at 2.7 gram water per gram of glycogen. I found a research paper titled, Glycogen storage: illusions of easy weight loss, excessive weight regain, and distortions in estimates of body composition, which offers the following data on the ratio:

Glycogen is stored in the liver, muscles, and fat cells in hydrated form (three to four parts water) associated with potassium (0.45 mmol K/g glycogen). . . .

Glycogen losses or gains are reported to be associated with an additional three to four parts water, so that as much as 5 kg weight change might not be associated with any fat loss.

Lyle McDonald of Body Recomposition has also weighed in on this subject:

Carbohydrate (stored in your muscles and liver as glycogen) is accompanied by a good bit of water. For every gram of glycogen stored, you store anywhere from 3-4 grams of water with it.

How does this relationship affect bodyweight? In short, diet and exercise will deplete glycogen stores. If your diet is working, the depletion will occur early and have a significant impact on your bodyweight without impacting a permanent change in your body composition.

Let’s take me as an example. I estimate that I have around 155 - 160 pounds of lean tissue. Tack on another 12 - 17 pounds of fat. After a week or two of being on a low-carbohydrate diet that involves intermittent fasting and plenty of exercise (see here), my liver and muscle glycogen stores will be completely depleted. I’ll weigh about 172.

If I go on to eat a bunch of carbohydrates — cookies, pretzels, breads, fruits and other starchy foods (by eating a bunch, I mean consuming something on the order of 1000 grams of carbohydrates over the course of 24 hours, which is about 4000 calories), I will fully replenish my glycogen stores. In the process of replenishment, the 1000 grams of carbohydrates will require anywhere from 3000 to 4000 grams of water for storage! Converting from grams to pounds, the impact on my bodyweight should be an increase of 9 to 11 pounds, taking my weight up to 183*! Of course, the same change would happen in reverse: re-depleting glycogen stores would drop my weigh back to the low 170s.

Mike over at the IF life alluded to this fact in three bullets back on his Trainer Tells All post:

Muscle size is mostly glycogen and water . . . I can go up and down 10lbs in a week easily depending on glycogen and water balance . . . The first big amount of lbs you lose in the first week dieting is mostly water

Mike’s anecdotal experience is explained by the storage ratio between glycogen and water. What it means is that in the early stages of a diet, the magical drop in bodyweight will be mostly water weight.

Another implication of the water/glycogen relationship on bodyweight is that whereas the first 4000 calorie deficit you create will reduce your weight some ten pounds, the next 4000 calorie deficit is likely only going to reduce your bodyweight a paltry two pounds! This is because a pound of fat stores 3500 calories and requires about a pound of water for storage. Thus, the initial weight-loss will seem easy compared to the drudging continued weight-loss when you’re actually burning stored fat.

Failing to understand what is going on with glycogen stores and water retention will set yourself up for a shock when you inevitably “fall off the wagon” – even if the “fall” is only for a day or two of heavy-carb or more “normal” eating.

Understanding the impact of glycogen depletion/repletion on bodyweight is just one more reason why merely weighing yourself on a scale provides a poor indication of your body composition. You’re better served by taking some physical measurements (waist size, for example). Or even better, take some periodic camera phone self-portraits — over time, you should be able to compare them and get a great feel for your progress (or lack thereof).

* I’ve witnessed this fluctuation on numerous occasions over the past year, but I didn’t quite fully understand it until today. You see, I was fully glycogen depleted going into New Year’s Eve. I proceeded to go on a pre-planned “refeed” (that just happpened to coincide with NYE, of course!). The refeed involved eating plenty of pretzels, chips, breads, fruits, cookies, cereal, donuts, etc. Some incredibly unhealthy, albeit tasty, foods. I also drank a good bit of Pinot Noir NYE, which is the opposite of what you should do if you are re-feeding in that your body will be needing water and alcohol will dehydrate you past certain levels of intake. Anyway, after a 24 hour refeed, my bodyweight went from 172 to 184. Hard to believe unless you understand what is going on. And this kind of fluctuation would be entirely disheartening to the ignorant dieter who might feel they just blew their diet in one day! As it is, I expect I’ll be back in the low 170s within five days after I do a fast and get two or three workouts in.

Further reading:

PermalinkPermalink Friday January 02 at 02:44:04 pm, by Justin — 8 comments »

8 comments

Comment from: Erika [Visitor] Email
Hello:

I am desperate to figure out what's wrong with me. I am 10. lbs or so overweight (177 female, 5'8") but every time I try to exercise and diet, within a few days (or when I seem to lose a pound or two)I:

•Sleep terribly - toss and turn, sleep lightly and/or have insomnia
•Wake up with extreme hunger or weakness and THIRST
•Get fatigued very quickly during exercise (after 20 mins or so)
•Have general fatigue

I feel like my body is not using energy properly. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I desperately want to get back to my old weight but my body is resisting it.

Thanks,
Erika
05/30/09 @ 11:34
Comment from: Matt Gaffney [Visitor] Email
At 5'8", you're almost 40 pounds overweight, not 10. Your ideal weight is 140. Where did you come up with the 167 figure?
06/24/09 @ 20:00
Comment from: Marnee [Visitor]
Uhm you can FULLY replenish your glycogen stores by just eating plenty of fatty meat and wait a little while. If your body is well adapted to a low carb diet (low external source of glucose) then your ole liver and its gluconeogenesis is more than sufficient to produce enough glucose to synthesize glycogen. The more you liver does this the better it gets at it such that it will very quickly and efficient restore glycogen. So you could eat yourself into a food coma, give yourself a nice bout of constipation from all that gluten, or eat something healthy like a t-bone steak slathered in butter with extra bacon, and completely forgo the inevitable insulin surge and subsequent fat storage.

Gluconeogenesis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis

Glycogenecis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogenesis

External sources of glucose are not needed. Take heed.
09/04/09 @ 13:42
Comment from: Justin [Member] Email
Marnee,

Though gluconeogenesis can be used by your body to create glycogen, it isn't likely to be able to produce enough glucose to full replenish your glycogen stores. I've seen estimates put your body's max storage capacity for glycogen at anywhere from 200 - 400 (and even 500 grams of glycogen). People on cyclical ketogenic diets often go through refeeds whereby they eat over 500 gm of carbohydrates to replenish glycogen stores.

I bring this up because I've also seen estimates put a limit on gluconeogenesis at around 70 gms of protein. Additionally, your body throws off glycerol on the breakdown of triglycerides which can in turn be converted into glycogen. Between these two internal sources of glucose, your body can produce about 100 grams of glucose (glycogen) a day.

Note: your body requires some amount of glucose per day (I'm not sure how much, but I'd guess its <100 gm/day assuming its functioning on ketone bodies whereever possible).

All of this combined means that if you are glycogen depleted, and eating few/restricted carbohydrates, your body will probably rarely be storing much glycogen at all and will certainly be running below its max storage capacity. In other words, even though eating a fatty, large steak could (and would) be converted by your body into glycogen, it'd just be to maintain the status quo -- 100 gm/day used and not much stored.

Mind, if you do a strenuous workout while fasted/glycogen depleted, you can ratchet your glycogen stores really low -- again, so low as to make it impossible for eating fatty protein sources to be enough to restore max glycogen levels.

Finally, my personal experience completely plays out the above glycogen depletion/replenishment. I can gain a lot of weight very quickly if I've been in a fasted/glyc-depleted state by pounding a bunch of carbs. However, I've never had that same impact (huge weight gain in only a day or two) by pounding a bunch of protein and fat, which I've certainly been known to do!

I guess I agree with you about gluconeogenesis and you could say "well why would you want to max your glycogen stores anyway?" And the only good answer is that if you're trying to hack down your body fat, it seems it takes some trickery on your part -- prolonged low-carb/glycogen depletion seems to cause diminishing returns as far as fat loss. The body adjusts to protect itself from unnecessarily wasting energy stores (fat and protein). So periodic refeeds help tell the body "everything is ok" -- they also tend to reduce cortisol levels if I recall correctly.

Ok sorry for the long-winded response.

Justin
09/04/09 @ 14:21
Comment from: Marnee [Visitor]
Hi Justin, thanks for responding.

"The body adjusts to protect itself from unnecessarily wasting energy stores (fat and protein)."

I'm glad you said that! Yep, for sure, every system of the body is optimized for efficiency. That is why tissue that is not needed will not be maintained, much like how feet atrophy in shoes, your organs atrophy when not used (by feeding your body stuff that it can produce on its own, aye?)

So, I have to wonder, those estimates on production of glucose or glycogen come from what kind of experiments? I doubt they were developed in the context of a long-term external glucose source free system coupled with consistent increasing glucose/glycogen demand (over significant time) -- are they? Much like in the body of someone who goes zero carb and starts training for a half marathon (like me). I imagine, just like the feet get atrophied by wearing shoes, your organs and their metabolic process also get atrophied. How do you know that the hepatic system could not easily keep up with the burden when it has been, well, trained enough? I don't think these experiments are definitive. Just like you have to develop the blood vessels, muscles, lung capacity, etc. to run, you'd think all the systems of the body would be the same. This is my personal speculation.

I have been zero carb for 9 months.

I don't feel any need to stuff my face with carbs after an intense workout or race or something like that. Not even an all day intense hike. In fact I don't feel the need to re-feed much (no tired feeling like when having a low blood sugar moment). I just eat my normal meals (twice a day). I might eat a little more when in training mode but not to the volumes and relative caloric increases that carb eaters report nor with that intense drive they seem to have (I know these feelings; I used to be a carb eater after all).

One thing that does match with your story, which is consistently reported, especially by the newer zero carbers, is that compared to their previous carby days it seems to take longer (a day or two more) to feel fully recovered from an intense workout. I can report this as well although over the last 9 months I have found that this recovery time has shortened significantly. My systems seem to be meeting their demands more and more effectively, over time. So seems to me it is a much better idea to just allow yourself to recover slowly and adapt, eating proper food, rather than to refeed with carbs, which have numerous side effects, as you know.

I know other zero carb runners who have similar experiences to mine. Charles Washington of zeroinginonhealth.com is a great example.

...and then there are the Inuit who manage to meet the intense demands of living & thriving in the Artic and never eat carbs either.

By the way, it was reading Good Calories Bad Calories that convinced to go zero carb. Just sayin'.

Cheers,
Marnee
09/04/09 @ 15:56
Comment from: Marnee [Visitor]
Hi Justin,

I almost forgot about this article from Art De Vany:

http://www.arthurdevany.com/2005/05/post_exercise_d_1.html

"After exercise, gene expression upregulates GLUT 4 and insulin sensitivity is dramatically enhanced. What happens when you ingest a high CHO meal or drink? You shut down this enhanced sensitivity. Then why bother with the exercise? The movement is good, but the important benefits are the hormone drives you set in motion."

He sites a study:
Effect of postexercise carbohydrate supplementation on glucose uptake-associated gene expression in the human skeletal muscle.
09/05/09 @ 12:40
Comment from: Junky [Visitor] Email
hi,

I need to know the amount of carbs (without water) that can be stored in muscle tissue. I read it is around 400grams only based on 28 Kg muscle x 14 grams \ Kg muscle mass. this 400grams binds with 3x mass of water. in your article, you mentioned that your body stores like 1000grams carbs + 3000 - 4000g water. also i read once that a body can store 15g of glycogen for every Kg of body mass. which is true??

12/20/09 @ 14:19
Comment from: jason [Visitor] Email
hi. i was wondering how you build muscle with zero carbs. i was under the impression that carbohydrates (more specifically, SIMPLE carbohydrates) are necessary for building muscle. incorrect? also, does burning glycogen include losing bodyfat?
12/25/09 @ 16:25

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